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In a conversation between Bret Stephens and Gail Collins, they discuss the current state of the American economy and its impact on Joe Biden’s chances for re-election. While the economy has added new jobs, illegal immigration has become a major concern for voters, with many disapproving of Biden’s handling of the border. Despite these challenges, Gail remains optimistic about Biden’s chances, citing the unpopularity of a potential return of Donald Trump to office.

The conversation shifts to the role of social media in shaping public opinion and political discourse. Bret expresses concerns about the rise of mob politics facilitated by social media, while Gail highlights the far-reaching impact of online communication in shaping public sentiment. The discussion touches on the potential consequences of a return of Trump to the White House, with Bret warning of heightened political polarization and social unrest.

The conversation then delves into the impact of the economy on voters’ perceptions of the Biden administration. While Gail emphasizes the positive aspects of economic recovery under Biden, Bret points out the increased cost of living and inflation rates that are squeezing American households. The debate also involves the administration’s handling of immigration issues, with differing opinions on the effectiveness of proposed solutions.

The conversation transitions to a discussion of Ron DeSantis’ decision to forbid children under 14 from having social media accounts. While Gail grapples with the implications of such a policy, Bret argues in favor of limiting underage access to social media, citing potential harm to mental health and well-being. The conversation explores the balance between free speech and protecting youth from harmful online influences.

Finally, Bret and Gail reflect on the upcoming solar eclipse and its significance as a natural phenomenon that transcends time and culture. They share a poetic excerpt by Archilochus of Paros, highlighting the wonder and awe inspired by celestial events. The conversation concludes with a sense of awe and appreciation for the interconnectedness of humanity through shared experiences of nature.

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